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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby 0LI » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:15 pm

cheapski wrote:The morning GFS run pushed the storm almost to the last frame of the forecast period...not outside of the range of fluctuation so far out, but a little tenuous to bank on.

UPDATED 11-6-09

YOU CAN SEE WHERE MJO WAS ON THE 5TH OF NOVEMBER.....WITH ITS PROGRESSION RACING TOWARD PHASE SPACE 3 FASTER THEN THE STATISTICAL FORECAST FOR NOVEMBER. AT THE RATE IT IS TRAVELING, IT SHOULD BE INTO PHASE SPACE 4 BETWEEN THE 8TH AND 10TH. ITS PACE HAS ACCELERATED. IT SHOULD BEGIN TO MODULATE THE MID LATITUDE WAVE PATTERN DURING THE 3RD WEEK OF NOVEMBER AT THIS PACE.

ONCE WELL INTO PHASE 4.....WE SHOULD DEFINITELY SEE GOOD SIGNS OF A PATTERN CHANGE IN THE MODELS OVER THE EASTERN PACIFIC WITH THE PROMISE OF A STORM. COINCIDENTALLY, THERE IS VERY GOOD CLIMO SUPPORT FOR A STORM AROUND THE 18TH OF NOVEMBER.

I HAVE NOTED THAT MJO WILL BEGIN TO MODULATE THE LONG WAVE FEATURES FAVORABLY, ONCE "WELL" INTO PHASE SPACE 4 AND 5 WITH STORMS POSSIBLE IN PHASE SPACE'S SPACE 5 AND 6 IF THE AMPLITUDE REMAINS STRONG. =>+2 DEVIATIONS ABOVE NORMAL.

IF THE MJO GETS INTO PHASE SPACE 6 AND 7 "UNDERCUTTING OF THE WESTERLIES", YOU HAVE A EL NINO LIKE PATTERN WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF A NEGATIVE PHASE TNH TELECONNECTION PATTERN DEVELOPING FOR THE SOUTHERN/CENTRAL WEST COAST. THAT EFFECT MOST LIKELY OCCURS MUCH LATER IN THE WINTER DURING MODERATE TO STRONG EL NINO YEARS. ONE THING ABOUT MJO AND EL NINO...THEY DO NOT LIKE EACH OTHER. THE MJO, ONCE IT GETS OVER THE WARMER WATERS OF +ENSO...THE SIGNAL BECOMES AMORPHOUS. AGAIN IF MJO IS INTO PHASE 6 AND 7, IT MAY NOT REALLY BE THE MJO; IT MAY BE STRONG TROPICAL CONVECTION *** WITH EL NINO IN THE CENTRAL PAC.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby noworkski » Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:39 pm

As most of you know by now, the GFS 00z has no "storm" during the prediction period. That ridge is cemented put, so no sierra cement predicted just yet. The GFS is not yet picking up on the Dweeber's retrogression speculation (which he paid Ed Berry to tell him about. :lol: )

Dweeber- any thoughts how the apparent "western" nature of this El Nino will lessen or increase its impact at MM (see the El Nino thread)?
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Sat Nov 07, 2009 11:35 am

The GFS is back on for that stronger storm in the third week of the month.

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There's a number of "near misses" preceding that wet storm any of which could drop further south and snow a little over the central Sierra.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:02 pm

Yesterday's 8-14 day outlook

8-14 DAY OUTLOOK FOR NOV 14 - 20 2009

ENSEMBLE MEANS AND HIGH-RESOLUTION OPERATIONAL MODELS ARE IN
AGREEMENT IN DEEPENING THE TROUGH OVER ALASKA AND EXTENDING IT INTO THE GULF OF
ALASKA DURING THE 8-14 DAY PERIOD...

BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE MOST LIKELY FOR SOUTHERN ALASKA UNDER A DEEP TROUGH. SOME
BELOW NORMAL TEMPERATURES ARE PREDICTED TO REMAIN IN THE US SOUTHWEST AS THE PATTERN TRANSITIONS.

THE ALEUTIANS ARE LIKELY TO HAVE ABOVE
MEDIAN PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH THE NORTH PACIFIC JET. THE ALASKAN
PANHANDLE AND PACIFIC COAST AS FAR SOUTH AS CENTRAL CALIFORNIA HAVE AN ENHANCED
CHANCE OF ABOVE MEDIAN PRECIPITATION AHEAD OF THE TROUGH DIGGING SOUTHWARD OVER
THE PACIFIC.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby skimike » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:57 am

it always seems like I always leave the weather section more confused than I came, ^ I think that just said its gonna rain soon or maybe it didnt :-?
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby Photoho » Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:41 am

^^^ Is your trailer staying warm ?
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby WeatherGuy » Sun Nov 08, 2009 8:01 am

You guys are looking too far downstream, there may be some fish this week.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby nyboarder » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:06 am

skimike wrote:it always seems like I always leave the weather section more confused than I came, ^ I think that just said its gonna rain soon or maybe it didnt :-?

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Weather speak is a foreign language.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby noworkski » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:27 am

WeatherGuy wrote:You guys are looking too far downstream, there may be some fish this week.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby TheSnowman » Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:46 am

12z looks good and its not all out at 384 hours! Keep the faith it's coming...
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby ride395 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 11:40 am

better to predict near misses and partly cloudy [/superstitiousness]
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby RatherBeSkiing » Sun Nov 08, 2009 1:53 pm

nyboarder wrote:
skimike wrote:it always seems like I always leave the weather section more confused than I came, ^ I think that just said its gonna rain soon or maybe it didnt :-?

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Weather speak is a foreign language.

There's more of us out there than you realize. ;)
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby bikensnow102 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 4:15 pm

RatherBeSkiing wrote:
nyboarder wrote:
skimike wrote:it always seems like I always leave the weather section more confused than I came, ^ I think that just said its gonna rain soon or maybe it didnt :-?

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Weather speak is a foreign language.

There's more of us out there than you realize. ;)

someone needs to explain to use how to read it..... ;)
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby CalvaryMike » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:19 pm

I just read these forums for the pictures. :D :rofl:
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby snowboard247 » Sun Nov 08, 2009 6:20 pm

bikensnow102 wrote:
RatherBeSkiing wrote:
nyboarder wrote:
skimike wrote:it always seems like I always leave the weather section more confused than I came, ^ I think that just said its gonna rain soon or maybe it didnt :-?

I'm glad I'm not the only one! Weather speak is a foreign language.

There's more of us out there than you realize. ;)

someone needs to explain to use how to read it..... ;)

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