November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby Sierra Lady » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:23 pm

It was 69 in town today and it felt like September.

Still currently 59 at Main Lodge. They haven't been able to blow snow in 5 or 6 days. :(
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby ocboarder » Mon Nov 02, 2009 6:31 pm

Early Fall Ridges seem to be too common here in CA... :emo:
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby snowtrekker » Mon Nov 02, 2009 8:52 pm

ocboarder wrote:Early Fall Ridges seem to be too common here in CA... :emo:


I've been noticing the same thing. It seems like you get a few days of troughing, then a month of ridge. It's one of the things I dislike about California weather.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby ride395 » Mon Nov 02, 2009 9:49 pm

it's kinda why it's CA weather, though ... it's like saying you hate how sunny it always is in CA. that's fine and all, but it just seems, well, obvious that CA has sunny weather. that's why mammoth always pushes the x# of sunny days stat. that and length of season are the marketing needle movers, after all.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby ePiC » Mon Nov 02, 2009 11:45 pm

snowboard247 wrote:They took all the precip out of the 7 day forecast :(


there was precip in it? LOL
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:10 am

Wimpy! But, it looks cold, so the natural snow can be supplemented with snowmaking.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby skibum4ever » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:17 am

Cheaps, when do you foresee snowmaking weather to begin again?

Nov. 7 is awfully close, and it's been awfully warm . . . :(
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:22 am

According to the 5 day forecast, the temps. at Main dont even get to freezing until Thursday night. Over the weekend it will be below that.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:12 am

This morning's run is still looking

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from a near miss this weekend. Nothing else in sight yet. Where are those undercutting systems we're expecting from an El Nino year???
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:25 am

It looks promising.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:43 pm

The Dweeb is channeling his inner Ed Berry.

CURRENT PROBLEM:

LONG WAVE PATTERN AT THE MOMENT IS STILL HIGHLIGHTED BY A LARGE SCALE UPPER RIDGE AT THE DATELINE WITH A MINOR LONG WAVE TROF NORTH OF HAWAII. THE UPPER JET IS PRETTY ZONAL BY THE WEEKEND WITH SHORT WAVE ENERGY SPLITTING DOWN STREAM OF THE UPPER HIGH AS IT WEAKENS INTO THE DOWNSTREAM UPPER RIDGE OVER THE FAR WEST US. THE NOSE OF A 170 KNOT UPPER JET WILL BE APPROACHING PORTLAND THURSDAY NIGHT...AND INTO OREGON FRIDAY...WELL TO THE NORTH OF CENTRAL CA.....AND EVEN THE TAHOE AREA TO DO MUCH GOOD. UNTIL THE DATELINE RIDGE REDEVELOPS FURTHER TO THE EAST OR WEST....OUR PATTERN WILL REMAIN DRIER THEN NORMAL.

SPECULATION:

I STILL LIKE TO USE THE INTER-SEASONAL TOOL (PHASE SPACE) ASSOCIATED WITH MJO FOR THE PROSPECTS OF CHANGE. AS INDICATED YESTERDAY, THE MJO IS TRACKING EAST AT A PRETTY GOOD CLIP NOW. AT THIS PACE, WE SHOULD "BEGIN TO SEE IN THE MODELS" RETROGRESSION IN THE PACIFIC PATTERN BY THIS WEEKEND AND REALIZE POSSIBLY A COLDER INSIDE SLIDER PATTERN LATER THAT WEEK. BEYOND THAT, BEST GUESS, A LONG WAVE TROF SETS UP "ABOUT" OR DURING THE TIME AFTER THE 15TH. THAT IS, IF THE INTER-SEASONAL OSCILLATION GETS INTO PHASE SPACE 4/5 BY THEN.

IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF A PATTERN CHANGE COINCIDES WITH THIS EASTWARD SHIFT OF MJO. HOWEVER, IT IS UNDERSTOOD THAT THE RESULTS WOULD STILL NOT BE CONCLUSIVE...JUST INTERESTING TO NOTE.

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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby snowboard247 » Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:31 pm

...back in the forecast?

Friday: A slight chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 39. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 31.

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 32.

Saturday Night: A slight chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 27.


At least it'll be cold enough for some productive snowmaking.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby LBSkier » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:30 pm

snowboard247 wrote:...back in the forecast?

Friday: A slight chance of rain and snow. Mostly cloudy, with a high near 39. Chance of precipitation is 20%.

Friday Night: Mostly cloudy, with a low around 31.

Saturday: Partly sunny, with a high near 32.

Saturday Night: A slight chance of snow showers. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 27.


At least it'll be cold enough for some productive snowmaking.


Will it be cold enough? Seriously?
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby cheapski » Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:31 pm

It will be cold enough Sat night and Sunday night. Unfortunately, that's a bit after the scheduled reopening.

Also, this piddly weekend thing seems to be an isolated instance. Still no big pattern change on the horizon just yet.
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Re: November Stormssss! Open, Sez Me

Postby WestCoastRider » Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:47 pm

cheaps I love that water vapor image with the isobars, very cool. Also I agree with you with the lack of anything making its way under that giant and stubborn ridge sitting offshore--which seem like forever. Very non-el nino like. But everyone is preaching a mid winter dumping...we'll see.
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