Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

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Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby JohnLemieux » Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:54 pm

Effective on February 18, 2012, Mammoth Mountain Ski Area is changing our regular workweek. Our overtime rules will now follow the "ski establishment" regulations of the Industrial Welfare Commission's (IWC's) Work Order 10 that govern our wages, hours and working conditions in the "Amusement and Recreation Industry."

The law states that ski area operators may institute:

"a regularly scheduled workweek of not more than 48 hours during any month of the year when alpine or nordic skiing activities, including snowmaking an grooming activities, are actually being conducted by the ski establishment; provided, however, that any employee shall be compensated at a rate of not less than one and one-half (1.5) times the employee's regular rate of pay for any hours worked in excess of ten (10) hours work in a day or 48 hours in a workweek."

This change means that if any employee works over 10 hours in a day or over 48 hours in a workweek, then the employee is entitled to overtime pay (1.5 times the employee's regular rate of pay) for those hours. If an employee works on a seventh consecutive day in a workweek, that employee would be entitled to overtime for the first 8 hours and double their regular rate of pay for hours over 8.


I'm not sure if this will affect many people since my understanding was that everyone got their hours cut to 32/week, but I certainly won't be working >40/week now if they ask me.

And why is there and exception in the labor law for ski areas that says workers have a 48 hour week when most places are 40?
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby SurfnSnowboard » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:25 pm

I would think that employees would still jump at the chance to work more than 40 hours per week if offered just to make some additional money.

Interesting decision though and I wonder how many people it will impact.
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby SnowtigerDaniel » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:31 pm

JohnLemieux wrote: And why is there and exception in the labor law for ski areas that says workers have a 48 hour week when most places are 40?


When 48 frozen hours thaw out, it is equivalent to 40 warm hours.
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby Dropn N » Thu Feb 23, 2012 7:40 pm

Who in their right mind works 40 hours a week? Why would somebody want to work 48+ hours a week? Some of my neighbors after 12 years still don't think I work. Leave at 6, 7 or 8 in the morning and home by 2,3 or 4 daily. Go figure!
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby SnowtigerDaniel » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:00 pm

Work forty hours a week? or spend 40 hours a week at work?
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby JohnLemieux » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:03 pm

SnowtigerDaniel wrote:Work forty hours a week? or spend 40 hours a week at work?


Obviously someone's never made snow
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby Stephen » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:07 pm

Dropn N wrote:Who in their right mind works 40 hours a week? Why would somebody want to work 48+ hours a week? Some of my neighbors after 12 years still don't think I work. Leave at 6, 7 or 8 in the morning and home by 2,3 or 4 daily. Go figure!


Not a bad system for a south OC resident.
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby SnowtigerDaniel » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:26 pm

JohnLemieux wrote:
SnowtigerDaniel wrote:Work forty hours a week? or spend 40 hours a week at work?


Obviously someone's never made snow


That comment was meant for Dropn N. Does yellow snow count?
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby JohnLemieux » Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:41 pm

SnowtigerDaniel wrote:
JohnLemieux wrote:
SnowtigerDaniel wrote:Work forty hours a week? or spend 40 hours a week at work?


Obviously someone's never made snow


That comment was meant for Dropn N. Does yellow snow count?


Only if it's lemon flavored
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Re: Mammoth Mtn no longer paying overtime for <48 hour

Postby longlivechair19 » Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:20 pm

Mammoth can probably do this because it is Weather dependant
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