"This is not a scam for money for air service."

by **ofset** » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:50 pm

hmmm... i wonder what the pet policy is for tropical lap parrots????

by **ShiftyRider** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:22 pm

MT wrote:In Mammoth, though, Urdi has proposed a 0.5 percent surcharge of everything and anything...from sport shops to restaurants.

The revenues from the TBID would go straight into the town’s general fund to help bolster Mammoth’s budget for air service...

Previously...

Gregory said it should be up to the group to decide whether it’s a group or Mountain responsibility, but that “this is not a scam for us to come up with money for air service.”

Oops.

by **TheSnowman** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:23 pm

BS ... NO MORE TAXES

by **PerfectZero** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:51 pm

Business Improvement District fee on tourism-based businesses in Mammoth

mistrust has been the main sticking point in what some businesses still regard as a tourist tax, even though technically it is not.

its not a tax because its a fee?

by **M2M** » Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:06 pm

TheSnowman wrote:BS ... NO MORE TAXES

let's not forget the 10% increase coming in the state gas tax in july

by **ride395** » Fri Mar 15, 2013 6:57 pm

Did somebody make the "this is not the droid you're looking for" joke yet?

by **ShiftyRider** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 9:10 am

Oops, sorry. Turns out, this IS A SCAM for money for air service. Not only that, it's a scam for the taxpayers to pay the winter air subsidy. You know, the one MMSA was previously the sole entity responsible.

These people seem like thieves to me. This is really over the top.

Reminder...

FTI Capital Advisors, reporting directly to TOML wrote:Inferior goods and services do not benefit from being made more expensive.

Notably, at 13 percent, Mammoth Lakes’ current transient occupancy tax rate is exceeded by only eight out of 431 California cities levying this tax...

Taxes on tourists are [actually the opposite of "free money for the townsfolk"], because, other things equal, they lessen the return to investment in the businesses serving them.

by **Grumpy** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:20 am

Once this passes, which it will, it will then secure the sale of Mammoth Mountain to Vail Resorts. Once again the town folk being played like suckers.

Smells like Intrawest all over again.

by **TheSnowman** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:32 am

It's time to challenge all BIDS in this country. They are BS and should be deemed unconstitutional.

by **Freerider** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:08 pm

Grumpy wrote:Once this passes, which it will, it will then secure the sale of Mammoth Mountain to Vail Resorts. Once again the town folk being played like suckers.

Smells like Intrawest all over again.

Vail has been buying up several ski resorts. A little birdy told me that they are actualy in negotiations to buy Bear mountain resorts. I did notice that they spruced up a bit by taking several trees and shrubs out in between park run and rips run and also
on silver mountain. If they did buy it I would think they would try to connect SS with Bear mnt.

by **ofset** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:17 pm

Therefore, MMSA and a few other large businesses can essentially pass a BID all by themselves.

Attendees at Wednesday’s meeting included Rusty Gregory, Bob Peckenpaugh, Ron Cohen and Jim Smith from MMSA, Kirk Schaubmayer of the Alpenhof Lodge, Tony Colasardo of Footloose Sports, Tom Cage of Kittredge Sports, Michael Ledesma of Gomez’s Restaurant and Tequileria, Rhonda Duggan of Sierra Nevada Resort and John Morris of Snowcreek Resort. Town Councilmember and owner of the Old New York Deli Michael Raimondo appeared via speakerphone.

Wow it sounds like the small guys are getting strong armed here. Basically if Mammoth has 40% of the vote they only need a few other "large" businesses to agree with the scam. this really sucks.

by **ShiftyRider** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:00 pm

...basically, MMSA and maybe four other businesses, trying to levy a tax as government officials might. Except it would be illegal to bribe government officials.

To sweeten the pot, [MMSA] would offer participating local small businesses discounted and transferable season passes

The truth is stranger than fiction.

by **ski30+** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 3:36 pm

I find it strange that last year Ski Area Ops only did $43,951,057 and Sierra Star Golf did $43,116.. 43K for a Golf course.. I think the ice rink made more then that.

by **ShiftyRider** » Thu May 09, 2013 9:54 am

We all knew, this IS A SCAM for money for air service.

Hats off to the owner of Grumpy's and the commenters at SierraWave.

by **Grumpy** » Thu May 09, 2013 10:32 am

You can watch Gregg's entire comments right here. Go to 1:25:17 of the video.

Love the comment about what if people don't want to pay the fee?

http://mammothlakes.granicus.com/MediaP ... lip_id=259