If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:22 pm

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The business stifling loopers would be better off supporting the CEO's land swap which would allow MMSA to rebuild main lodge draw more skier visits and make a bit more money to continue to support the operation over in June Lake.


History already speaks for itself concerning this statement. And even again, recently, MMSA stated publicly that they would not put money into June Mt.


What so now they're going to F_ with the CEO's land swap deal? What a bunch of pricks. At that point I think I'd avoid throwing more money at June and keep it closed. Two can play that game; No land swap, no June Mountain!

The forest service makes for a lousy neighbor and even a lousier partner and that’s exactly why Rusty wants the land swap. I don’t support anything the USFS does but I do support growth of private enterprise. I think for most people who appose the land swap the value of the public land in question is nothing more then a valuable tool to reach their own special interests and goals. If it wasn’t for that I wonder how many people would care.

The land swap is good for MMSA. As much as I’d like to see June improved I won’t support holding the land deal hostage to see those improvements. I think the Loopers should just be happy June will be open next season.

Perhaps there is another reason to appose the land swap but that hasn’t been mentioned.
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby ofset » Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:13 pm

M2M wrote:offer cat skiing with all this snow,,,


^^this!!!
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:13 am

The land swap deal is pretty shady

Saturday, May 12, 2012
Congressman Buck McKeon who is using taxpayer assets as a bargaining chip to get illegal corporate donations and lots and lots of quasi legal bribes from MMSA executives.


http://downwithtyranny.blogspot.com/2012/05/why-is-house-ethics-committee-taking-so.html

It appears MMSA has been bribing Buck for some time. Perhaps it should be apposed for no other reason then how it's been played. Never the less, if everyone gets what they want the dirty deed is done crooked as hell as it seems.

it will be interesting to see how the blackmailing loopers come into play.
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby Jbaysurfer » Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:58 pm

MMSA is charged with stewarding publicly owned land. That land is not owned by them, it's owned by the public. So if they aren't doing a good job stewarding it in June, I have no problem asking the question of whether they should be given more leeway at Main Lodge. In fact, it's a completely rational question/consideration.
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby Photoho » Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:31 pm

I understand what you are saying, but I think the swap is to make the land at Main ( or at least across the street ) private
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby Jbaysurfer » Wed Feb 27, 2013 10:01 am

Photoho wrote:I understand what you are saying, but I think the swap is to make the land at Main ( or at least across the street ) private


I also understand what YOU'RE saying :-P but the swap is swapping what is currently highly used public land for completely unused private land, and that's exactly the dilemma the FS faces: Highest and best use of public resources. They should consider the corporation's history of stewarding those resources when making any decision.
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby onegoodturn » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:05 pm

Does the term, smoke and mirrors, come to mind? Shouldn't Mr. Gregory come up with a plan for June before he goes forward with the land swap? Or tries to. The folks here are pretty pissed off...

There's a meeting soon in Bridgeport, I think it's on the 5th but I gotta check it out. Hope lots of you can attend.
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby Photoho » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:12 pm

If Max starts now he can hike up there by the 5th and ride a few shutes on the way
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Wed Feb 27, 2013 5:44 pm

The folks here are pretty pissed off...


What about exactly?
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby onegoodturn » Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:09 pm

SkierBob wrote:
The folks here are pretty pissed off...


What about exactly?


You of all people have to ask???
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Wed Feb 27, 2013 7:22 pm

I thought we were good; Rusty said June will be open next season.

What's to be pissed about?
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby windyscotty » Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:54 am

In the past everything came down to a land swap with Mammoth in the town and on the hill. Why should this venture be any different?

Snow Creek was a land swap. The golf course was a land swap. Life is a freakin' land swap-get used to it!

Join in now: This land is your land, this land is my land, from Mammoth Mtn. to Fantasy Island. This land was made for you and me. Yippee!
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:13 am

Seems the pissed off Loopers want to play hardball.

If they go that route I'm willing to bet they shoot themselves in the foot.

It's a great drama either way
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby windyscotty » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:38 pm

We also know that the FS is in control here despite what Mammoth or the public want to do about it. They have land they want to trade for all over the dang country and do so on a regular basis. Snowcreek was traded for land in another state.

So don't hold your breath. Speak your peace, but in the end, the Chief makes the final call. If they want the ski hill to go back to nature, it will be done. If they want Mammoth to continue in operation, it will be done. If they choose to let another corporation take over, it will be done. "Thy will be done!"
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Re: If you were the CEO, what would you do to 'fix' June?

Postby SkierBob » Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:50 pm

The Pissed Off Loopers (to be refered to as the POL from here on) need to start greasing uncle Buck's palm.

The POL will have to play the game if they want to win the game. Right now the POL doesn't have much going for them and they have some serious intitlement issues to boot. Some psychiatric counseling will help with the intitlement issues and some good ol' cold cash will surely grease uncle Buck's palm.
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